1 00:00:07,249 --> 00:00:04,220 hi this is my quest of Medibank org and 2 00:00:07,870 --> 00:00:07,259 this video is debunking 9/11 microsphere 3 00:00:10,700 --> 00:00:07,880 myths 4 00:00:13,220 --> 00:00:10,710 what are microspheres what do they have 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:13,230 to do with 9/11 how do we debunk them 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:15,330 and why should we bother I shall attempt 7 00:00:20,870 --> 00:00:17,930 to answer all of these questions 8 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:20,880 microspheres are microscopic spheres is 9 00:00:25,670 --> 00:00:23,490 somewhat a penny these are made of iron 10 00:00:28,460 --> 00:00:25,680 and they range in size from around half 11 00:00:29,929 --> 00:00:28,470 a millimeter to around 50 microns that's 12 00:00:33,319 --> 00:00:29,939 under a thousandth of an inch that's 13 00:00:35,420 --> 00:00:33,329 very very small how do you make micro 14 00:00:37,459 --> 00:00:35,430 spheres well any sufficiently small 15 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:37,469 volume of liquid will tend to form into 16 00:00:41,810 --> 00:00:39,930 a sphere because of surface tension the 17 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:41,820 smaller it is the more spherical it's 18 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:43,290 going to be the more perfectly spherical 19 00:00:46,940 --> 00:00:45,570 while the tiny drops of water here if 20 00:00:48,470 --> 00:00:46,950 you look at the drops at the top that 21 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:48,480 are smaller they're a lot more spherical 22 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:50,010 than the larger drops which are moving 23 00:00:55,490 --> 00:00:52,770 around the same thing works with a 24 00:00:57,709 --> 00:00:55,500 liquid metal - here's some liquid metal 25 00:01:00,889 --> 00:00:57,719 at room temperature and you'll see that 26 00:01:03,290 --> 00:01:00,899 the very very small drops especially on 27 00:01:06,950 --> 00:01:03,300 the right side here are very very 28 00:01:10,219 --> 00:01:06,960 spherical if you pour some liquid metal 29 00:01:12,950 --> 00:01:10,229 from a high place like this shot-tower 30 00:01:14,539 --> 00:01:12,960 for example it's gonna make spheres shot 31 00:01:17,390 --> 00:01:14,549 towers were used about a hundred years 32 00:01:19,850 --> 00:01:17,400 ago to make LED shot they poured molten 33 00:01:22,070 --> 00:01:19,860 lead from the top of this tower inside 34 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:22,080 it into a water bath at the bottom and 35 00:01:26,899 --> 00:01:25,170 as it fell it formed into drops it 36 00:01:28,670 --> 00:01:26,909 cooled enough to solidify and then they 37 00:01:30,499 --> 00:01:28,680 caught it in the water bath and let's 38 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:30,509 made these little balls of light which 39 00:01:37,210 --> 00:01:34,770 we use for LED shot but the spheres I'm 40 00:01:41,870 --> 00:01:37,220 interested in are iron the spheres and 41 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:41,880 iron melts at around 1600 degrees here's 42 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:45,210 a video of some molten iron the molten 43 00:01:49,819 --> 00:01:48,570 iron is splashing around and all the 44 00:01:51,889 --> 00:01:49,829 sparks that are coming out and make this 45 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:51,899 little microspheres you see some very 46 00:01:55,670 --> 00:01:53,250 big spheres but it's also a bunch of 47 00:01:58,399 --> 00:01:55,680 lower ones in that to be liquid he needs 48 00:02:01,819 --> 00:01:58,409 to be 1,600 degrees or higher around 49 00:02:06,260 --> 00:02:01,829 that meaning is white-hot quick 50 00:02:09,139 --> 00:02:06,270 chemistry point steel is 98% iron it's 51 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:09,149 98% iron 2 percent carbon and a few 52 00:02:12,650 --> 00:02:10,770 other little things depending on the 53 00:02:13,390 --> 00:02:12,660 type of steel so we're going to use the 54 00:02:16,930 --> 00:02:13,400 term steel 55 00:02:18,789 --> 00:02:16,940 I earn interchangeably here sorta I in 56 00:02:21,430 --> 00:02:18,799 Mecca spheres have to do with 9/11 well 57 00:02:23,649 --> 00:02:21,440 on 9/11 when the Twin Towers of the 58 00:02:26,410 --> 00:02:23,659 World Trade Center collapsed it created 59 00:02:28,479 --> 00:02:26,420 a lot of dust and this dust covered a 60 00:02:29,890 --> 00:02:28,489 wide area downtown New York and those 61 00:02:31,089 --> 00:02:29,900 lot concern in the weeks after the 62 00:02:33,130 --> 00:02:31,099 collapse about the possible health 63 00:02:34,839 --> 00:02:33,140 effects these concerns as we know were 64 00:02:36,580 --> 00:02:34,849 well-founded lots of people breathed in 65 00:02:38,710 --> 00:02:36,590 the dust and many people later became 66 00:02:40,809 --> 00:02:38,720 ill at the time the main concern was 67 00:02:43,930 --> 00:02:40,819 asbestos obviously but we really didn't 68 00:02:45,190 --> 00:02:43,940 know what was in the dust so various 69 00:02:47,530 --> 00:02:45,200 people had done a whole bunch of studies 70 00:02:49,509 --> 00:02:47,540 trying to figure this out well the first 71 00:02:51,309 --> 00:02:49,519 one which done just a month after 9/11 72 00:02:53,110 --> 00:02:51,319 by the Ground Zero elected officials 73 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:53,120 Task Force there was a bunch of others 74 00:03:00,430 --> 00:02:56,810 the USGS this Millette study another one 75 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:00,440 by Millette the EPA did one in 2003 and 76 00:03:08,050 --> 00:03:05,690 in 2003 RJ Lee a consulting company did 77 00:03:10,390 --> 00:03:08,060 a report on 130 Liberty Street which was 78 00:03:12,640 --> 00:03:10,400 a building quite close to the South 79 00:03:13,990 --> 00:03:12,650 Tower that was badly damaged and they 80 00:03:15,640 --> 00:03:14,000 wanted to see what was in the dust that 81 00:03:17,500 --> 00:03:15,650 was in that building and they found 82 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:17,510 amongst other things some iron 83 00:03:22,690 --> 00:03:20,450 microspheres in 2005 was an early study 84 00:03:26,559 --> 00:03:22,700 by the USGS and they they also found 85 00:03:29,199 --> 00:03:26,569 microspheres a couple of years later the 86 00:03:31,030 --> 00:03:29,209 advocates of the 9/11 controlled 87 00:03:33,129 --> 00:03:31,040 demolition theory which are people who 88 00:03:34,420 --> 00:03:33,139 believe that the World Trade Center was 89 00:03:37,599 --> 00:03:34,430 destroyed by a controlled demolition 90 00:03:39,339 --> 00:03:37,609 they noticed these reports that had 91 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:39,349 these microspheres in and they thought 92 00:03:44,439 --> 00:03:41,930 like what how does this fit in with our 93 00:03:48,369 --> 00:03:44,449 theory as if it in with the controlled 94 00:03:51,550 --> 00:03:48,379 demolition theory and in 2008 dr. Steven 95 00:03:54,580 --> 00:03:51,560 Jones proposed that the spheres were 96 00:03:57,220 --> 00:03:54,590 explained by nano thermite demolition 97 00:03:59,800 --> 00:03:57,230 and that the spheres hence were evidence 98 00:04:01,869 --> 00:03:59,810 of nano thermite demolition and he 99 00:04:04,210 --> 00:04:01,879 published a paper in 2008 on on this 100 00:04:05,830 --> 00:04:04,220 subject so how do you get from I am 101 00:04:08,319 --> 00:04:05,840 microspheres to controlled demolition 102 00:04:10,569 --> 00:04:08,329 here's the logic behind that theory iron 103 00:04:12,369 --> 00:04:10,579 microspheres means molten iron because 104 00:04:13,479 --> 00:04:12,379 you have to have behind to be molten for 105 00:04:16,420 --> 00:04:13,489 the surface tension to form them into 106 00:04:20,140 --> 00:04:16,430 Spears that's true iron melts at around 107 00:04:22,630 --> 00:04:20,150 1,600 degrees Celsius also true building 108 00:04:25,899 --> 00:04:22,640 fires burn at 1100 degree Celsius more 109 00:04:27,100 --> 00:04:25,909 or less that's also true thermite burns 110 00:04:28,719 --> 00:04:27,110 at 22 111 00:04:31,089 --> 00:04:28,729 degrees Celsius another thing which is 112 00:04:34,179 --> 00:04:31,099 true all these things are true therefore 113 00:04:37,990 --> 00:04:34,189 the argument goes the IMAX fears come 114 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:38,000 from the thermite this is incorrect we 115 00:04:42,700 --> 00:04:41,210 will come to that later and the argument 116 00:04:44,379 --> 00:04:42,710 goes on there's lots of them therefore 117 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:44,389 there must have been some kind of 118 00:04:49,330 --> 00:04:45,770 controlled demolition with a whole bunch 119 00:04:51,309 --> 00:04:49,340 of thermite proved 100% now this theory 120 00:04:54,700 --> 00:04:51,319 has been around as I said since 2008 and 121 00:04:56,909 --> 00:04:54,710 it's now 2018 but list theory is still 122 00:04:59,320 --> 00:04:56,919 going strong this is a current page on 123 00:05:01,600 --> 00:04:59,330 architects and engineers for 9/11 truth 124 00:05:04,149 --> 00:05:01,610 and they're talking about this paper by 125 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:04,159 Steven Jones as if it is still current 126 00:05:08,649 --> 00:05:07,250 science and if it still does mean what 127 00:05:11,649 --> 00:05:08,659 they say it means and they talk about 128 00:05:14,439 --> 00:05:11,659 how it must have had molten metal being 129 00:05:16,390 --> 00:05:14,449 sprayed into the air and they say unless 130 00:05:18,189 --> 00:05:16,400 their site very specifically this very 131 00:05:19,959 --> 00:05:18,199 simple argument very very simple and 132 00:05:21,879 --> 00:05:19,969 straightforward and logical high heat 133 00:05:24,129 --> 00:05:21,889 results in spherical particles particles 134 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:24,139 of iron which it does I unders not melt 135 00:05:28,300 --> 00:05:25,490 until fifteen hundred and thirty-eight 136 00:05:30,580 --> 00:05:28,310 degrees see also true fires were 1,100 137 00:05:33,820 --> 00:05:30,590 degrees see also true and they use this 138 00:05:34,959 --> 00:05:33,830 as what they say has been conclusive 139 00:05:37,390 --> 00:05:34,969 proof that there was some kind of 140 00:05:39,969 --> 00:05:37,400 thermite involved in the destruction of 141 00:05:42,850 --> 00:05:39,979 the World Trade Center another group of 142 00:05:44,409 --> 00:05:42,860 people who are interested in this are 143 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:44,419 the lawyers Committee for 9/11 inquiry 144 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:46,849 which is a bunch of lawyers and Eadie 145 00:05:51,219 --> 00:05:49,490 Arceneaux is also on the board and they 146 00:05:53,230 --> 00:05:51,229 strongly believe that 9/11 involved 147 00:05:55,420 --> 00:05:53,240 controlled demolition and as far as I 148 00:05:56,769 --> 00:05:55,430 can tell they all genuinely mean well 149 00:05:58,809 --> 00:05:56,779 and I think most of the people in 150 00:06:00,249 --> 00:05:58,819 architects ninjas for 9/11 truth also 151 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:00,259 believe well these are good people they 152 00:06:04,420 --> 00:06:02,810 believe in what they say and they feel 153 00:06:06,129 --> 00:06:04,430 like they're just doing what is right 154 00:06:08,140 --> 00:06:06,139 for the families of the 9/11 victims and 155 00:06:09,550 --> 00:06:08,150 for Humanity in America in general 156 00:06:11,740 --> 00:06:09,560 because they're just trying to reveal 157 00:06:13,179 --> 00:06:11,750 this conspirator to this conspiracy to 158 00:06:16,529 --> 00:06:13,189 the world and you know get the truth out 159 00:06:20,499 --> 00:06:16,539 there so they mean well that is wrong 160 00:06:22,179 --> 00:06:20,509 what this group are doing now is filing 161 00:06:24,429 --> 00:06:22,189 a petition with the US attorney in New 162 00:06:26,379 --> 00:06:24,439 York for a grand jury investigation into 163 00:06:27,820 --> 00:06:26,389 the events of 9/11 here they are holding 164 00:06:30,429 --> 00:06:27,830 the petition in front of the courthouse 165 00:06:32,469 --> 00:06:30,439 is the petition and in this petition 166 00:06:34,749 --> 00:06:32,479 they make a very simple argument at one 167 00:06:36,430 --> 00:06:34,759 point they say the presence in the World 168 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:36,440 Trade Center dust of iron microspheres 169 00:06:40,970 --> 00:06:39,130 formed from previously molten iron is 170 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:40,980 physically impossible 171 00:06:46,790 --> 00:06:43,410 without the use of incendiary materials 172 00:06:49,220 --> 00:06:46,800 such as thermite this is a very simple 173 00:06:51,620 --> 00:06:49,230 argument and it will be very compelling 174 00:06:54,230 --> 00:06:51,630 if it was true it was correct but it's 175 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:54,240 not there's many many ways of making 176 00:06:58,820 --> 00:06:56,250 iron microspheres I've made microspheres 177 00:07:00,770 --> 00:06:58,830 myself about 10 different ways but it's 178 00:07:02,660 --> 00:07:00,780 like a step back I am hardly the first 179 00:07:04,100 --> 00:07:02,670 person to address this topic let's have 180 00:07:07,970 --> 00:07:04,110 a look at the long history of debunking 181 00:07:11,330 --> 00:07:07,980 911 microspheres so the first thing on 182 00:07:16,190 --> 00:07:11,340 our 911 debunking 911 iron microspheres 183 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:16,200 debunking timeline is 1665 with Robert 184 00:07:22,460 --> 00:07:20,490 Hooke Robert Hooke was a fellow of the 185 00:07:25,610 --> 00:07:22,470 Royal Society in England and he wrote 186 00:07:27,890 --> 00:07:25,620 this is lovely book micrographia he 187 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:27,900 actually invented a compound microscope 188 00:07:31,460 --> 00:07:29,850 a really good compound microscope and he 189 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:31,470 spent a lot of time examining small 190 00:07:37,310 --> 00:07:34,410 things my new bodies and describing what 191 00:07:39,110 --> 00:07:37,320 he saw and drawing diagrams one of the 192 00:07:40,970 --> 00:07:39,120 things that he studied was iron 193 00:07:42,950 --> 00:07:40,980 microspheres he seed right in the middle 194 00:07:46,220 --> 00:07:42,960 there there's a perfect little iron 195 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:46,230 microsphere he made he microspheres 196 00:07:50,030 --> 00:07:48,450 himself he didn't need thermite or 197 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:50,040 anything he made them very very simply 198 00:07:55,390 --> 00:07:51,930 with a couple of methods is the first 199 00:07:58,970 --> 00:07:55,400 method method number one steel on Flint 200 00:08:00,950 --> 00:07:58,980 sparks struck from a flint what he did 201 00:08:03,710 --> 00:08:00,960 was he struck a flint with the steel 202 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:03,720 over a sheet of white paper he collected 203 00:08:08,780 --> 00:08:05,610 the sparks and he observed that they 204 00:08:10,250 --> 00:08:08,790 were iron microspheres you can do 205 00:08:12,050 --> 00:08:10,260 something similar yourself you can get a 206 00:08:14,090 --> 00:08:12,060 flint steel and you can strike them 207 00:08:16,100 --> 00:08:14,100 together and I've done that you could 208 00:08:18,860 --> 00:08:16,110 also do it with a regular bit lighter 209 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:18,870 now modern lighters are actually the 210 00:08:23,780 --> 00:08:21,570 reverse of the method Hooke uses and 211 00:08:25,340 --> 00:08:23,790 they're the Flint what we call the Flint 212 00:08:28,130 --> 00:08:25,350 is actually a mixture of iron and other 213 00:08:30,470 --> 00:08:28,140 metals and it's the hard steel wheel or 214 00:08:32,510 --> 00:08:30,480 scrapes that and creates the sparks but 215 00:08:34,310 --> 00:08:32,520 the principle is the same with very 216 00:08:36,310 --> 00:08:34,320 little mechanical effort you can make 217 00:08:38,870 --> 00:08:36,320 sparks which make iron microspheres 218 00:08:40,700 --> 00:08:38,880 every time you strike a lighter like 219 00:08:43,430 --> 00:08:40,710 this you're creating around a hundred 220 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:43,440 iron rich microspheres and if you put a 221 00:08:46,580 --> 00:08:45,210 magnet to be had a piece of paper and 222 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:46,590 strike the lighter over it you can 223 00:08:51,350 --> 00:08:47,970 collect the mics Pierce and look at them 224 00:08:53,269 --> 00:08:51,360 with a microscope here I'm striking a 225 00:08:56,119 --> 00:08:53,279 lighter in front of a penny 226 00:08:58,759 --> 00:08:56,129 with a magnet behind it you can see the 227 00:09:01,160 --> 00:08:58,769 sparks and you can just see the tiny 228 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:01,170 spheres building up on the penny the 229 00:09:05,990 --> 00:09:02,850 phase mount mounted vertically so that 230 00:09:08,389 --> 00:09:06,000 the the Flint residue will just fall off 231 00:09:10,819 --> 00:09:08,399 and watch the meaning of these tiny tiny 232 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:10,829 tiny little iron microspheres hundreds 233 00:09:17,329 --> 00:09:14,490 and hundreds of them if we compare these 234 00:09:19,999 --> 00:09:17,339 spheres that hook made in 1665 this is 235 00:09:21,170 --> 00:09:20,009 the spears that I made in 2018 you'll 236 00:09:24,319 --> 00:09:21,180 see you know they look kind of similar 237 00:09:28,759 --> 00:09:24,329 we also see the the flakes of Steel that 238 00:09:31,269 --> 00:09:28,769 we get from the scraping action very 239 00:09:34,249 --> 00:09:31,279 very similar things so straightaway 240 00:09:36,590 --> 00:09:34,259 Hookers disproven the basic claim made 241 00:09:38,210 --> 00:09:36,600 by these various 911 groups you don't 242 00:09:40,550 --> 00:09:38,220 actually need thermite to me coming in 243 00:09:44,389 --> 00:09:40,560 microspheres all you need is something 244 00:09:46,610 --> 00:09:44,399 that makes sparks from iron and he made 245 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:46,620 it with a second method to the second 246 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:49,050 method was to throw iron filings in a 247 00:09:55,249 --> 00:09:53,370 flame he describes his method as take 248 00:09:57,410 --> 00:09:55,259 some filings of iron and with the point 249 00:10:00,319 --> 00:09:57,420 of a knife cast them through the flame 250 00:10:01,819 --> 00:10:00,329 of a candle and then collect the sparks 251 00:10:04,249 --> 00:10:01,829 as before I did this myself 252 00:10:06,889 --> 00:10:04,259 I used my knife tossin free of a candle 253 00:10:08,379 --> 00:10:06,899 he made some sparks it's hard to get a 254 00:10:11,780 --> 00:10:08,389 lot of spheres from this because it 255 00:10:13,850 --> 00:10:11,790 didn't really burn very well but it you 256 00:10:15,439 --> 00:10:13,860 know he did but I found a better way of 257 00:10:18,290 --> 00:10:15,449 doing it was to use a larger flame so I 258 00:10:22,629 --> 00:10:18,300 used a small blowtorch and I tossed the 259 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:22,639 iron filings into the blowtorch and 260 00:10:26,329 --> 00:10:24,569 collected them with the magnet you see 261 00:10:31,129 --> 00:10:26,339 on the left-hand side there there is a 262 00:10:33,710 --> 00:10:31,139 dark square a dark patch and that is 263 00:10:35,769 --> 00:10:33,720 covered with approximately 10,000 264 00:10:39,889 --> 00:10:35,779 microspheres just from a few seconds of 265 00:10:42,350 --> 00:10:39,899 iron dust in a flame and here's a before 266 00:10:44,749 --> 00:10:42,360 and after photograph with the microscope 267 00:10:49,069 --> 00:10:44,759 the dust that are tossed through the 268 00:10:51,799 --> 00:10:49,079 flame is on the left and what results 269 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:51,809 from that is on the right as you can see 270 00:10:57,110 --> 00:10:53,730 there's a large amount of pretty small 271 00:11:01,309 --> 00:10:57,120 iron microspheres and they are all under 272 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:01,319 a hundred microns in size so the hook 273 00:11:05,030 --> 00:11:03,050 has demonstrated a second way 274 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:05,040 microspheres can form that does not 275 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:07,170 involve nano thermite or super high 276 00:11:13,940 --> 00:11:11,370 flame temperatures but we know that 277 00:11:16,819 --> 00:11:13,950 spheres can only form from liquid metal 278 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:16,829 how does the iron end up liquid if the 279 00:11:23,180 --> 00:11:20,010 temperature of the flame is so low well 280 00:11:25,610 --> 00:11:23,190 the answer is iron burns it turns out 281 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:25,620 the iron itself is making the heat if 282 00:11:30,230 --> 00:11:28,410 you burn a piece of iron completely it 283 00:11:33,019 --> 00:11:30,240 releases ten times the amount of energy 284 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:33,029 needed to melt that piece of iron so the 285 00:11:38,269 --> 00:11:35,850 sparks you see are I am burning melting 286 00:11:40,730 --> 00:11:38,279 itself I'm mixing in some iron oxide to 287 00:11:42,949 --> 00:11:40,740 make this iron rich spheres when iron 288 00:11:45,019 --> 00:11:42,959 burns it gets so hot it melts the 289 00:11:48,019 --> 00:11:45,029 adjacent iron and it mixes in with the 290 00:11:51,470 --> 00:11:48,029 molten iron and the the iron oxide and 291 00:11:52,790 --> 00:11:51,480 it makes these tiny little spheres it's 292 00:11:54,139 --> 00:11:52,800 are you gonna work with very very small 293 00:11:56,620 --> 00:11:54,149 pieces of iron there because you need a 294 00:11:59,540 --> 00:11:56,630 very large surface area to volume ratio 295 00:12:01,579 --> 00:11:59,550 if you have a large piece of iron only 296 00:12:03,439 --> 00:12:01,589 the outside of the iron is gonna get hot 297 00:12:04,730 --> 00:12:03,449 enough to melt and because the inside is 298 00:12:07,220 --> 00:12:04,740 still killed the whole thing isn't going 299 00:12:09,100 --> 00:12:07,230 to melt but if it's small enough the 300 00:12:11,449 --> 00:12:09,110 entire thing is going to melt and 301 00:12:12,769 --> 00:12:11,459 providing the combustion stops at some 302 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:12,779 point which you will when it runs out of 303 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:14,850 oxygen or it gets too much iron oxide in 304 00:12:20,090 --> 00:12:16,890 the mix then you're gonna get these tiny 305 00:12:24,250 --> 00:12:20,100 little iron microspheres so how's this 306 00:12:29,389 --> 00:12:24,260 relate to the events of 9/11 in two ways 307 00:12:31,340 --> 00:12:29,399 fire and friction these are the two ways 308 00:12:33,860 --> 00:12:31,350 the hoax experiments showed as the 309 00:12:37,180 --> 00:12:33,870 spheres could have formed first of all 310 00:12:39,710 --> 00:12:37,190 in the fire very small pieces of iron 311 00:12:41,780 --> 00:12:39,720 electrolyte flakes of rusty iron or 312 00:12:44,689 --> 00:12:41,790 damaged iron will burn in the fire and 313 00:12:47,329 --> 00:12:44,699 they'll make microspheres secondly from 314 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:47,339 friction or impacts like if iron or 315 00:12:52,309 --> 00:12:50,130 steel it's concrete very very hard or 316 00:12:54,860 --> 00:12:52,319 very very fast which you would do during 317 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:54,870 the collapse then you would get lots of 318 00:12:59,750 --> 00:12:56,850 sparks coming off and these sparks will 319 00:13:01,790 --> 00:12:59,760 create iron microspheres there's also a 320 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:01,800 kind of combination of these two events 321 00:13:09,740 --> 00:13:06,810 if you have some iron that fails under 322 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:09,750 tension then what happens is the 323 00:13:14,569 --> 00:13:12,410 shockwave of the snapping of the iron 324 00:13:17,870 --> 00:13:14,579 propagates through the einem blows off 325 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:17,880 the surface of iron flakes then it can 326 00:13:19,940 --> 00:13:19,410 anything that's kind of rusty or perhaps 327 00:13:22,130 --> 00:13:19,950 paint 328 00:13:23,450 --> 00:13:22,140 it is gonna blow off the surface and 329 00:13:26,870 --> 00:13:23,460 you're gonna all these little flakes of 330 00:13:32,150 --> 00:13:26,880 rusty iron which will then compost in 331 00:13:34,970 --> 00:13:32,160 the fire all right now back to our 332 00:13:40,090 --> 00:13:34,980 debunking timeline we did rob a hook in 333 00:13:42,590 --> 00:13:40,100 1665 the next set of debunking was in 334 00:13:46,430 --> 00:13:42,600 2008 on the James Randi Educational 335 00:13:51,850 --> 00:13:46,440 Foundation forum known as J F there was 336 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:51,860 lots of discussion on jrf there was over 337 00:13:56,560 --> 00:13:54,330 5,000 posts in these multiple threads 338 00:13:59,030 --> 00:13:56,570 I've only listed a few of them here 339 00:14:02,360 --> 00:13:59,040 discussing the topic of microspheres and 340 00:14:05,270 --> 00:14:02,370 things like thermite and or not but it's 341 00:14:08,450 --> 00:14:05,280 difficult for every person to find any 342 00:14:10,580 --> 00:14:08,460 information here even though all of the 343 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:10,590 explanations that I'm discussing in this 344 00:14:15,470 --> 00:14:13,050 video are actually mentioned you know 345 00:14:17,090 --> 00:14:15,480 pretty much somewhere in this forum it's 346 00:14:18,470 --> 00:14:17,100 very very difficult to find them because 347 00:14:20,540 --> 00:14:18,480 they tend to get lost in these long 348 00:14:22,070 --> 00:14:20,550 threads so I ended up independently 349 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:22,080 discovering things like the lightest 350 00:14:27,350 --> 00:14:23,850 sparks and I'm pretty good at googling 351 00:14:29,180 --> 00:14:27,360 stuff so they did on the JRF debunk the 352 00:14:31,430 --> 00:14:29,190 claim of iron microspheres being 353 00:14:32,900 --> 00:14:31,440 evidence of thermite and quite 354 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:32,910 comprehensively but they didn't 355 00:14:36,790 --> 00:14:34,170 communicate it very well they didn't 356 00:14:41,090 --> 00:14:36,800 really get that information out of them 357 00:14:44,750 --> 00:14:41,100 so next on our timeline we have 2011 and 358 00:14:46,250 --> 00:14:44,760 Dave Thomas Dave Thomas in 2011 made 359 00:14:47,810 --> 00:14:46,260 this video how to make iron rich 360 00:14:49,580 --> 00:14:47,820 microspheres not with thermite but with 361 00:14:51,350 --> 00:14:49,590 a lighter and steel wool he did a very 362 00:14:53,500 --> 00:14:51,360 simple experiment similar to Hookes 363 00:14:57,380 --> 00:14:53,510 experiment with the the iron filings 364 00:14:58,880 --> 00:14:57,390 where he took steel wool and he lit it 365 00:15:01,460 --> 00:14:58,890 with a lighter and he burnt it and 366 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:01,470 created some iron microspheres he took 367 00:15:04,550 --> 00:15:03,330 photographs of them we did some analysis 368 00:15:06,530 --> 00:15:04,560 of them and he found that they were 369 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:06,540 pretty much the same as the iron 370 00:15:09,830 --> 00:15:08,490 microspheres found in the World Trade 371 00:15:12,260 --> 00:15:09,840 Center dust that people had been 372 00:15:13,610 --> 00:15:12,270 analyzing these Spears didn't look that 373 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:13,620 good they were kind of like big and 374 00:15:18,140 --> 00:15:15,930 bulky and had these wires coming out of 375 00:15:20,900 --> 00:15:18,150 them but they were iron microspheres 376 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:20,910 and there's actually a much better way 377 00:15:24,950 --> 00:15:22,890 of doing it than simply lighting it and 378 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:24,960 looking at the the wall itself what 379 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:27,090 she'd do is light it over a piece of 380 00:15:31,620 --> 00:15:29,890 paper with a magnet underneath it 381 00:15:33,509 --> 00:15:31,630 and then when you burn the steel wall 382 00:15:35,819 --> 00:15:33,519 and it's better to use actual steel wall 383 00:15:38,340 --> 00:15:35,829 rather than a brillo pad of some sort 384 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:38,350 when you burn the steel wall the tiny 385 00:15:42,750 --> 00:15:40,450 iron microspheres the form will drop and 386 00:15:44,220 --> 00:15:42,760 they will collect on the magnet below 387 00:15:46,590 --> 00:15:44,230 then if you look at them through the 388 00:15:48,810 --> 00:15:46,600 microscope you see a much much better 389 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:48,820 collection of spheres of all different 390 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:51,010 sizes you see these tiny tiny ones which 391 00:15:54,210 --> 00:15:52,450 have come from the sparks and you see 392 00:15:57,420 --> 00:15:54,220 the larger ones which have come from the 393 00:15:59,880 --> 00:15:57,430 combustion traveling along the wire and 394 00:16:01,470 --> 00:15:59,890 you see some partially combusted wires 395 00:16:04,650 --> 00:16:01,480 like the one in the middle with a sphere 396 00:16:07,110 --> 00:16:04,660 on the end it's a much better way of 397 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:07,120 doing it over a piece of paper and these 398 00:16:11,699 --> 00:16:09,730 tiny spheres are very very perfectly 399 00:16:12,990 --> 00:16:11,709 round most of them so you have to be 400 00:16:14,940 --> 00:16:13,000 very very careful cuz they'll just roll 401 00:16:16,590 --> 00:16:14,950 off anything that you put them on so you 402 00:16:18,509 --> 00:16:16,600 gotta have a magnet underneath and then 403 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:18,519 you go transfer them to something sticky 404 00:16:21,660 --> 00:16:20,410 so they won't won't come off something 405 00:16:23,610 --> 00:16:21,670 like a printer label or something like 406 00:16:27,690 --> 00:16:23,620 that to keep them in place so you can 407 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:27,700 look at them with a microscope now this 408 00:16:32,069 --> 00:16:29,050 steel wall experiment the Dave Thomas 409 00:16:33,690 --> 00:16:32,079 Tate has some important effects in the 410 00:16:34,769 --> 00:16:33,700 discussion first of all it showed that 411 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:34,779 there were other ways in making any 412 00:16:38,670 --> 00:16:36,850 microspheres just like hook did the 413 00:16:40,860 --> 00:16:38,680 hundreds of years ago but now you know 414 00:16:43,740 --> 00:16:40,870 here is how on YouTube actually being 415 00:16:45,449 --> 00:16:43,750 demonstrated it showed that fires fires 416 00:16:47,009 --> 00:16:45,459 could make iron makes Ryan rich 417 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:47,019 microspheres without higher fire 418 00:16:50,430 --> 00:16:48,370 temperature it's just a bit lighter 419 00:16:52,350 --> 00:16:50,440 which isn't very hot and you can even 420 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:52,360 ignite it with a piece of paper if you 421 00:16:58,319 --> 00:16:55,690 want and it showed that architects and 422 00:17:00,509 --> 00:16:58,329 engineers for 9/11 truth and dr. Jones 423 00:17:07,939 --> 00:17:00,519 were wrong when they said that the only 424 00:17:10,319 --> 00:17:07,949 cause of this was nano-thermite and 425 00:17:12,150 --> 00:17:10,329 because it was a video it showed this in 426 00:17:14,100 --> 00:17:12,160 a very direct way and it was a practical 427 00:17:16,590 --> 00:17:14,110 experiment that was was very easy to 428 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:16,600 repeat very easy to do and so people 429 00:17:19,319 --> 00:17:17,890 could do it themselves and they can make 430 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:19,329 these iron microspheres and they could 431 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:21,970 basically disprove this basic point that 432 00:17:27,770 --> 00:17:24,250 sir you know the lawyers were putting in 433 00:17:30,450 --> 00:17:27,780 there their petition to the to the court 434 00:17:32,190 --> 00:17:30,460 a bit later Dave Thomas did some more 435 00:17:34,020 --> 00:17:32,200 experiments he took some steel beams and 436 00:17:35,039 --> 00:17:34,030 he put them in a bill burn barrel and he 437 00:17:36,299 --> 00:17:35,049 burned them he got some iron 438 00:17:38,070 --> 00:17:36,309 microspheres which isn't really 439 00:17:40,350 --> 00:17:38,080 surprising because you know in in 440 00:17:42,130 --> 00:17:40,360 whenever the steel around there's gonna 441 00:17:48,700 --> 00:17:42,140 be a whole bunch of microspheres from 442 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:48,710 variety of methods now what I wanted to 443 00:17:53,890 --> 00:17:50,930 do after you know looking at Dave's 444 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:53,900 videos was try to make as many 445 00:17:57,910 --> 00:17:55,850 demonstrations and making microspheres 446 00:18:01,720 --> 00:17:57,920 as I could because you know he did a few 447 00:18:03,580 --> 00:18:01,730 he did the the burning steel he did did 448 00:18:06,970 --> 00:18:03,590 steel wall even it one with bashing 449 00:18:09,100 --> 00:18:06,980 cannonballs together but you know there 450 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:09,110 are other methods to a really really 451 00:18:12,490 --> 00:18:10,730 good way of making my microspheres is 452 00:18:14,170 --> 00:18:12,500 arc welding this is me doing a little 453 00:18:15,990 --> 00:18:14,180 bit of arc welding over a piece of paper 454 00:18:18,370 --> 00:18:16,000 again with a magnet underneath it 455 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:18,380 it's actually better to do it over a 456 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:19,970 water bath but you know this works do 457 00:18:25,300 --> 00:18:23,330 now arc welding basically makes a stream 458 00:18:28,150 --> 00:18:25,310 of hundreds of iron microspheres per 459 00:18:30,730 --> 00:18:28,160 second and how does he do this well if 460 00:18:33,610 --> 00:18:30,740 you look at arc welding very very close 461 00:18:37,420 --> 00:18:33,620 so this is the electrode what happens is 462 00:18:38,530 --> 00:18:37,430 it melts melts the steel and melts of 463 00:18:40,300 --> 00:18:38,540 steel of the electrode and the two 464 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:40,310 things kind of splash together with the 465 00:18:46,330 --> 00:18:42,890 arcing of the electricity like causing 466 00:18:47,830 --> 00:18:46,340 this this reaction and it splutters off 467 00:18:49,870 --> 00:18:47,840 these tiny little drops you see this 468 00:18:52,390 --> 00:18:49,880 huge spray of tiny little drops of Steel 469 00:18:54,730 --> 00:18:52,400 there those will all solidify in the air 470 00:18:57,820 --> 00:18:54,740 and turn into iron microspheres and this 471 00:19:00,820 --> 00:18:57,830 video is running a 300 times normal so 472 00:19:02,980 --> 00:19:00,830 one three hundredth of normal speed so a 473 00:19:05,710 --> 00:19:02,990 real speed this basically this constant 474 00:19:06,730 --> 00:19:05,720 stream of iron microspheres and if you 475 00:19:08,860 --> 00:19:06,740 have a doing your welding you might 476 00:19:10,690 --> 00:19:08,870 notice this dark dust forming underneath 477 00:19:12,430 --> 00:19:10,700 way you're doing this welding that's not 478 00:19:14,650 --> 00:19:12,440 suit you know I think it's sucked 479 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:14,660 because it's kind of dark looking but 480 00:19:20,410 --> 00:19:17,090 it's actually iron microspheres I enrich 481 00:19:21,970 --> 00:19:20,420 microspheres that collect underneath 482 00:19:23,890 --> 00:19:21,980 welding and you can pick them up with a 483 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:23,900 magnet for looking underneath look at 484 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:28,010 them underneath the microscope arc 485 00:19:31,570 --> 00:19:30,170 welding was used a lot in the 486 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:31,580 construction of the World Trade Centers 487 00:19:38,530 --> 00:19:35,930 the towers central columns were actually 488 00:19:40,180 --> 00:19:38,540 welded together along these edge welds 489 00:19:42,390 --> 00:19:40,190 which were like two or three inches deep 490 00:19:46,060 --> 00:19:42,400 and they had to fill this entire world 491 00:19:48,460 --> 00:19:46,070 with arc welding and this created it 492 00:19:50,650 --> 00:19:48,470 basically a constant stream of thousands 493 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:50,660 tens of thousands millions even billions 494 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:53,330 of tiny iron microspheres and some of 495 00:19:58,510 --> 00:19:55,690 those a goodly portion of those what 496 00:20:00,550 --> 00:19:58,520 during construction stuck underneath the 497 00:20:03,790 --> 00:20:00,560 walls in the concrete behind the walls 498 00:20:05,620 --> 00:20:03,800 and they would have been trapped there 499 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:05,630 safe from the elements so they wouldn't 500 00:20:09,550 --> 00:20:08,090 rest for decades until the building's 501 00:20:12,940 --> 00:20:09,560 finally collapse and they were released 502 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:12,950 as part of the microspheres that were 503 00:20:18,360 --> 00:20:15,050 found in the World Trade Center dose not 504 00:20:21,100 --> 00:20:18,370 all of them but probably part of them 505 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:21,110 angle grinding is another thing that 506 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:23,090 creates iron microspheres and this is 507 00:20:27,850 --> 00:20:24,890 the friction method essentially this is 508 00:20:30,010 --> 00:20:27,860 very similar to what Hooke was doing in 509 00:20:32,950 --> 00:20:30,020 the 1600s with a flint and a piece of 510 00:20:35,140 --> 00:20:32,960 steel it's shaving off at high speeds 511 00:20:36,910 --> 00:20:35,150 little bits of Steel which then ignite 512 00:20:39,580 --> 00:20:36,920 and then they form these iron-rich want 513 00:20:42,310 --> 00:20:39,590 microspheres you can do other 514 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:42,320 experiments I used a used hand warmer 515 00:20:48,090 --> 00:20:45,770 toss that threw a flame and the iron 516 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:48,100 filings that are in a hand warmer 517 00:20:54,190 --> 00:20:50,690 ignited and made these iron rich 518 00:20:56,620 --> 00:20:54,200 microspheres you can also make iron rich 519 00:20:58,810 --> 00:20:56,630 microspheres with thermite the video I 520 00:21:01,180 --> 00:20:58,820 showed you earlier of molten iron was 521 00:21:03,850 --> 00:21:01,190 actually some thermite burning thermite 522 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:03,860 is aluminum powder and iron oxide powder 523 00:21:09,580 --> 00:21:06,650 mixed together when he burns he makes 524 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:09,590 aluminum oxide and molten iron and he 525 00:21:12,790 --> 00:21:11,330 does make lots of microspheres some 526 00:21:15,730 --> 00:21:12,800 quite nice ones too 527 00:21:18,730 --> 00:21:15,740 but it makes a lot of white spheres and 528 00:21:22,090 --> 00:21:18,740 what I call eyeball microspheres which 529 00:21:25,380 --> 00:21:22,100 are white aluminum oxide with a smaller 530 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:25,390 iron sphere inside if you look at the 531 00:21:33,010 --> 00:21:29,930 equations of combustion of iron and iron 532 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:33,020 oxide and aluminum it the end result is 533 00:21:38,470 --> 00:21:36,050 twice as much aluminum oxide by volume 534 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:38,480 as there is iron it's about equal parts 535 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:39,890 by weight but it's twice as much by 536 00:21:46,540 --> 00:21:42,530 volume so you get twice as much aluminum 537 00:21:48,910 --> 00:21:46,550 oxide as you do iron and some of this is 538 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:48,920 going to form these eyeball microspheres 539 00:21:51,910 --> 00:21:50,330 which were very very distinctive and 540 00:21:53,830 --> 00:21:51,920 there was lots of them and this was 541 00:21:55,270 --> 00:21:53,840 something that I don't think anybody 542 00:21:56,770 --> 00:21:55,280 reported seeing in the World Trade 543 00:21:59,950 --> 00:21:56,780 Center dust and you would kind of expect 544 00:22:03,430 --> 00:21:59,960 it if there might had been used at least 545 00:22:06,550 --> 00:22:03,440 this type of aluminum oxide thermite 546 00:22:08,290 --> 00:22:06,560 thermite's a lot of fun you can buy the 547 00:22:10,510 --> 00:22:08,300 ingredients online and you can make it 548 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:10,520 for about five dollars a pound and with 549 00:22:14,140 --> 00:22:12,290 appropriate safety measures you can do 550 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:14,150 all kinds of destructive experiments 551 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:16,610 here I'm trying to cut through a square 552 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:20,330 steel tube and it with some sunlight it 553 00:22:32,650 --> 00:22:29,260 if we zoom in on that tube on the left 554 00:22:33,130 --> 00:22:32,660 you can see where near where it's all 555 00:22:35,860 --> 00:22:33,140 burnt 556 00:22:37,900 --> 00:22:35,870 there's a white patina you have a 557 00:22:39,700 --> 00:22:37,910 speckled white patina and if we look at 558 00:22:42,340 --> 00:22:39,710 that closer up this is it rotated around 559 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:42,350 you see that white patina is kind of a 560 00:22:47,500 --> 00:22:44,690 white powder and that white powder is 561 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:47,510 actually aluminum oxide and if we look 562 00:22:52,140 --> 00:22:50,090 at it even closer you'll see it's a 563 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:52,150 collection of aluminum oxide 564 00:23:00,400 --> 00:22:55,970 microspheres embedded in this kind of 565 00:23:02,260 --> 00:23:00,410 slab of aluminum oxide and an iron and 566 00:23:04,450 --> 00:23:02,270 there's also a whole bunch of iron rich 567 00:23:06,550 --> 00:23:04,460 microspheres mixed in there but it's 568 00:23:10,690 --> 00:23:06,560 more more than white aluminum so we get 569 00:23:12,190 --> 00:23:10,700 this patina around any cut that we do 570 00:23:16,660 --> 00:23:12,200 with with thermite this is very 571 00:23:21,100 --> 00:23:16,670 distinctive you see it on the the cuts 572 00:23:22,750 --> 00:23:21,110 that were made on 9/11 truth videos at 573 00:23:24,820 --> 00:23:22,760 the exact same patina and this is 574 00:23:28,390 --> 00:23:24,830 something that was not reported to be 575 00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:28,400 seen on the World Trade Center where 576 00:23:32,050 --> 00:23:31,130 where things have failed where beams and 577 00:23:33,370 --> 00:23:32,060 columns had failed 578 00:23:35,170 --> 00:23:33,380 they look like they're being ripped 579 00:23:36,820 --> 00:23:35,180 apart they don't look like they're being 580 00:23:39,340 --> 00:23:36,830 burnt apart and you don't have this 581 00:23:42,490 --> 00:23:39,350 patina of aluminum oxide and iron 582 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:42,500 microspheres near the the cut which 583 00:23:49,330 --> 00:23:44,330 doesn't even look like a burnt cut 584 00:23:51,100 --> 00:23:49,340 anyway so moving on this is my 585 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:51,110 wheelbarrow it's a steel wheelbarrow 586 00:23:57,790 --> 00:23:54,890 that's been painted red and this is the 587 00:24:00,970 --> 00:23:57,800 World Trade Center steel these are the 588 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:00,980 trusses that were underneath the floors 589 00:24:06,120 --> 00:24:03,530 and you can see they have a very similar 590 00:24:10,810 --> 00:24:06,130 paint job that both painted it with this 591 00:24:13,750 --> 00:24:10,820 red rust resistant primer paint now when 592 00:24:15,660 --> 00:24:13,760 I hit my steel wheelbarrow with the axe 593 00:24:17,820 --> 00:24:15,670 here's the back of the axe 594 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:17,830 then these little chips of paint came 595 00:24:23,580 --> 00:24:20,850 off this is what they looked like and 596 00:24:25,500 --> 00:24:23,590 they're red which is the paint on one 597 00:24:29,130 --> 00:24:25,510 side and on the other side they're gray 598 00:24:31,530 --> 00:24:29,140 which is kind of the rust and the steel 599 00:24:33,260 --> 00:24:31,540 you can see it's a bit of rust there but 600 00:24:36,510 --> 00:24:33,270 it's also the gray I think is actually 601 00:24:41,430 --> 00:24:36,520 actually iron itself iron or steel and 602 00:24:42,900 --> 00:24:41,440 when you burn it this this coating tends 603 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:42,910 to burn off because it's very very thin 604 00:24:48,180 --> 00:24:46,930 so it burns in the way that the steel 605 00:24:51,510 --> 00:24:48,190 wall will burn because you've got this 606 00:24:55,020 --> 00:24:51,520 very low volume to surface area ratio 607 00:24:57,810 --> 00:24:55,030 and if you burn it by tossing it through 608 00:25:00,300 --> 00:24:57,820 a flame you get this these little iron 609 00:25:02,100 --> 00:25:00,310 rich microspheres and we know that iron 610 00:25:08,010 --> 00:25:02,110 rich because they're attracted to a 611 00:25:10,110 --> 00:25:08,020 magnet in the shiny so you'd expect to 612 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:10,120 find both these type of paint chips from 613 00:25:16,260 --> 00:25:13,450 the snapping of all the the steel as it 614 00:25:18,630 --> 00:25:16,270 collapsed and bending and you could 615 00:25:23,390 --> 00:25:18,640 expect to find iron microspheres that 616 00:25:30,870 --> 00:25:27,180 there is also a lot of microspheres that 617 00:25:33,300 --> 00:25:30,880 would have formed during cleanup there 618 00:25:35,460 --> 00:25:33,310 was a huge amount of cleanup needed 619 00:25:36,870 --> 00:25:35,470 obviously because of all this twisted 620 00:25:38,340 --> 00:25:36,880 metal lying in the pile and they had to 621 00:25:40,380 --> 00:25:38,350 cut it a lot before they could get it 622 00:25:42,900 --> 00:25:40,390 out because it was all kind of jangle 623 00:25:44,220 --> 00:25:42,910 together or sometimes still attached to 624 00:25:46,740 --> 00:25:44,230 the original structure near at the 625 00:25:49,070 --> 00:25:46,750 bottom so they cut it with a couple of 626 00:25:52,470 --> 00:25:49,080 methods one was an oxy acetylene torch 627 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:52,480 where they cut it with by heating it up 628 00:25:56,010 --> 00:25:54,010 with oxy acetylene and then they use a 629 00:25:58,650 --> 00:25:56,020 high-pressure jet of oxygen to kind of 630 00:26:01,470 --> 00:25:58,660 burn through the steel itself and that 631 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:01,480 creates this huge shower of of iron rich 632 00:26:07,230 --> 00:26:03,970 microspheres another way is using these 633 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:07,240 the Mexica Lance's which use actually 634 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:10,330 some iron or other things inside this 635 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:13,090 long tube and they pipe oxygen through 636 00:26:17,730 --> 00:26:15,090 it and that creates a very very hot 637 00:26:18,930 --> 00:26:17,740 flame at the other side basically almost 638 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:18,940 like a plasma coming out at the other 639 00:26:25,260 --> 00:26:21,730 side and that will pretty much eat 640 00:26:26,790 --> 00:26:25,270 through anything and you can see it's 641 00:26:29,399 --> 00:26:26,800 being used here to cut on the on the 642 00:26:31,690 --> 00:26:29,409 right cut through one of the core column 643 00:26:35,139 --> 00:26:31,700 so there would have been a huge amount 644 00:26:37,239 --> 00:26:35,149 of iron microspheres that were on site 645 00:26:40,239 --> 00:26:37,249 from the cleanup now of course this 646 00:26:43,149 --> 00:26:40,249 wouldn't affect dust that was in distant 647 00:26:46,450 --> 00:26:43,159 locations but you have to ask where was 648 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:46,460 the sample taken was it an area in which 649 00:26:52,269 --> 00:26:50,090 cleanup had been done and this actually 650 00:26:56,769 --> 00:26:52,279 was an important Factory on one very 651 00:27:01,210 --> 00:26:56,779 famous area of sampling which was 130 652 00:27:03,879 --> 00:27:01,220 Liberty Street 130 Liberty Street is the 653 00:27:06,369 --> 00:27:03,889 the Deutsche Bank building which was 654 00:27:11,259 --> 00:27:06,379 studied by RJ Lee who we mentioned 655 00:27:14,379 --> 00:27:11,269 earlier and he has this one table where 656 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:14,389 he lists Fe Spears which is iron spheres 657 00:27:21,129 --> 00:27:19,369 at 5.8 7% it's not really clear what 658 00:27:24,419 --> 00:27:21,139 this means because the table is 659 00:27:26,619 --> 00:27:24,429 described as statistical p-values and 660 00:27:28,629 --> 00:27:26,629 it's not really clear exactly what it 661 00:27:30,129 --> 00:27:28,639 means he says mean of composition which 662 00:27:33,279 --> 00:27:30,139 makes you think that you know the dust 663 00:27:35,349 --> 00:27:33,289 was five point eight seven percent iron 664 00:27:37,210 --> 00:27:35,359 microspheres let's really make any sense 665 00:27:39,489 --> 00:27:37,220 because there's been a large number of 666 00:27:42,249 --> 00:27:39,499 other studies and on average these other 667 00:27:44,349 --> 00:27:42,259 studies found about one percent iron and 668 00:27:47,219 --> 00:27:44,359 that's one percent all of the iron it's 669 00:27:51,639 --> 00:27:47,229 not just the iron spheres though the the 670 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:51,649 the the the microspheres it's the total 671 00:27:55,810 --> 00:27:52,970 amount of iron which be all the iron 672 00:27:58,419 --> 00:27:55,820 dust and flakes and shavings and things 673 00:28:01,089 --> 00:27:58,429 like that so it's not really what this 674 00:28:04,839 --> 00:28:01,099 means but another thing is if you look 675 00:28:06,460 --> 00:28:04,849 at actual photographs of the dust the 676 00:28:08,499 --> 00:28:06,470 realism seems to be that many iron 677 00:28:13,149 --> 00:28:08,509 microspheres the sphere you just see on 678 00:28:14,889 --> 00:28:13,159 the left there is a glass sphere and if 679 00:28:15,399 --> 00:28:14,899 you look at all the the photographs of 680 00:28:17,619 --> 00:28:15,409 the dust 681 00:28:19,779 --> 00:28:17,629 you're not seeing five percent iron 682 00:28:22,619 --> 00:28:19,789 you're not seeing five percent spheres 683 00:28:26,229 --> 00:28:22,629 even Spears are actually relatively rare 684 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:26,239 so this this 5.8 seven percent number is 685 00:28:32,019 --> 00:28:29,330 rather dubious certainly RJ Lee did find 686 00:28:35,349 --> 00:28:32,029 iron rich microspheres and he did 687 00:28:37,299 --> 00:28:35,359 actually suggest that they could be used 688 00:28:38,849 --> 00:28:37,309 as one component of his signature of the 689 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:38,859 dust because they were relatively common 690 00:28:43,310 --> 00:28:41,850 so they were quite a few 691 00:28:46,010 --> 00:28:43,320 what might they have been finding then 692 00:28:48,350 --> 00:28:46,020 besides the the small amount of spheres 693 00:28:52,580 --> 00:28:48,360 that other people have found well the 694 00:28:54,860 --> 00:28:52,590 site of of their testing was 130 Liberty 695 00:28:56,980 --> 00:28:54,870 Street and this was what the building 696 00:28:59,720 --> 00:28:56,990 looked like you could look on the left 697 00:29:02,750 --> 00:28:59,730 there was a huge gash because a piece of 698 00:29:04,730 --> 00:29:02,760 World Trade Center 2 fell against the 699 00:29:07,159 --> 00:29:04,740 building and gouged out a huge chunk of 700 00:29:08,690 --> 00:29:07,169 it causing a lot of damage probably 701 00:29:10,430 --> 00:29:08,700 creating a few spheres in the process 702 00:29:11,930 --> 00:29:10,440 but it also kept the building was coated 703 00:29:15,110 --> 00:29:11,940 with dust which is dust around the World 704 00:29:16,430 --> 00:29:15,120 Trade Center and not local dust this was 705 00:29:19,159 --> 00:29:16,440 this photograph on the left was taken 706 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:19,169 two days after 9/11 was logged us there 707 00:29:24,490 --> 00:29:21,330 but this was not sampled for the time by 708 00:29:26,930 --> 00:29:24,500 RJ Lee now if you look on the right in 709 00:29:30,500 --> 00:29:26,940 2002 when the samples were actually 710 00:29:32,630 --> 00:29:30,510 taken a large amount of the structure of 711 00:29:35,060 --> 00:29:32,640 the building has been removed and to 712 00:29:36,649 --> 00:29:35,070 remove that building to remove that part 713 00:29:38,630 --> 00:29:36,659 those parts of the building you gonna 714 00:29:39,980 --> 00:29:38,640 have to cut a lot of steel you have to 715 00:29:41,529 --> 00:29:39,990 cut a lot of steel and probably do a bit 716 00:29:46,070 --> 00:29:41,539 of welding of some temporary structures 717 00:29:47,930 --> 00:29:46,080 so by the time 2002 rolled around and he 718 00:29:50,930 --> 00:29:47,940 actually did the sampling here over six 719 00:29:52,909 --> 00:29:50,940 months later the site would have been 720 00:29:54,470 --> 00:29:52,919 contaminated so there would have been 721 00:29:56,930 --> 00:29:54,480 spares and the original dust 722 00:29:58,640 --> 00:29:56,940 we know that for sure and there probably 723 00:30:02,090 --> 00:29:58,650 made a few extra spheres from from the 724 00:30:05,810 --> 00:30:02,100 cutting locally done so as he debunked 725 00:30:07,250 --> 00:30:05,820 and if so what was debunked well what 726 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:07,260 has been debunked is that conclusion 727 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:09,210 that the iron microspheres could not 728 00:30:14,659 --> 00:30:12,570 have come from the fire also debunked is 729 00:30:15,860 --> 00:30:14,669 the conclusion that these spheres the 730 00:30:18,980 --> 00:30:15,870 presence of these iron microspheres 731 00:30:21,950 --> 00:30:18,990 meant there was thermite these simple 732 00:30:23,299 --> 00:30:21,960 claims have been debunked let's have a 733 00:30:25,940 --> 00:30:23,309 look at how the claims are made in a 734 00:30:28,159 --> 00:30:25,950 little bit more detail please architects 735 00:30:31,130 --> 00:30:28,169 engineers for 9/11 truth and this is 736 00:30:33,380 --> 00:30:31,140 Richard gage as much as six percent of 737 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:33,390 the World Trade Center dust consisted of 738 00:30:39,620 --> 00:30:37,770 tiny previously molten iron spheres as 739 00:30:41,450 --> 00:30:39,630 we've seen this isn't actually true this 740 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:41,460 six percent figure his quoting comes 741 00:30:46,700 --> 00:30:44,490 from the RJ Lee report which not only 742 00:30:48,500 --> 00:30:46,710 was in a highly contaminated area but 743 00:30:51,110 --> 00:30:48,510 also doesn't tell me with the other 744 00:30:54,020 --> 00:30:51,120 dust results which are all showing less 745 00:30:55,419 --> 00:30:54,030 than one percent of iron let alone iron 746 00:30:58,989 --> 00:30:55,429 microspheres 747 00:31:00,999 --> 00:30:58,999 so this speaker is rather dubious what 748 00:31:05,019 --> 00:31:01,009 does this tell us about the temperatures 749 00:31:06,909 --> 00:31:05,029 generated in the towers destruction well 750 00:31:08,649 --> 00:31:06,919 as we've seen it risen tell us anything 751 00:31:10,839 --> 00:31:08,659 because you can get these iron 752 00:31:16,359 --> 00:31:10,849 microspheres from a very low temperature 753 00:31:18,669 --> 00:31:16,369 fire when the usgs collected samples of 754 00:31:21,669 --> 00:31:18,679 the World Trade Center dust they've 755 00:31:24,399 --> 00:31:21,679 found the iron microspheres in so far 756 00:31:26,589 --> 00:31:24,409 the usgs does not have a valid 757 00:31:30,070 --> 00:31:26,599 explanation for the presence of these 758 00:31:31,539 --> 00:31:30,080 iron microspheres the usgs wasn't 759 00:31:33,339 --> 00:31:31,549 actually looking for an explanation for 760 00:31:35,799 --> 00:31:33,349 these iron microspheres it simply noted 761 00:31:37,149 --> 00:31:35,809 what was in the dust there was all kinds 762 00:31:39,609 --> 00:31:37,159 of things that found in the dust and 763 00:31:41,709 --> 00:31:39,619 their aim was simply to catalog what was 764 00:31:43,989 --> 00:31:41,719 there and as we've seen there's a whole 765 00:31:46,329 --> 00:31:43,999 bunch of explanations for iron 766 00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:46,339 microspheres been found in the dust so 767 00:31:53,349 --> 00:31:51,289 wonder the microspheres contain iron is 768 00:31:56,589 --> 00:31:53,359 the main element and then it has smaller 769 00:32:00,310 --> 00:31:56,599 portions of aluminum sulfur a trace of 770 00:32:02,619 --> 00:32:00,320 manganese let's back up here for a 771 00:32:04,749 --> 00:32:02,629 little context mr. Loeb dill is talking 772 00:32:06,310 --> 00:32:04,759 about the USGS survey that categorized 773 00:32:10,209 --> 00:32:06,320 the various World Trade Center dust 774 00:32:13,239 --> 00:32:10,219 particles in that survey they found four 775 00:32:15,310 --> 00:32:13,249 just four iron rich particles of these 776 00:32:15,879 --> 00:32:15,320 four particles only two of them were 777 00:32:18,669 --> 00:32:15,889 spheres 778 00:32:20,409 --> 00:32:18,679 I don't know these two only one of them 779 00:32:23,649 --> 00:32:20,419 had the chemical composition that he 780 00:32:25,599 --> 00:32:23,659 describes the two spheres particle three 781 00:32:28,089 --> 00:32:25,609 and four had very different compositions 782 00:32:30,279 --> 00:32:28,099 the analysis that mr. Loeb Hill shows is 783 00:32:32,289 --> 00:32:30,289 for particle for this actually matches 784 00:32:34,329 --> 00:32:32,299 particle one very closely if we scale it 785 00:32:36,009 --> 00:32:34,339 to remove the large carbon peak but 786 00:32:38,529 --> 00:32:36,019 particle one is a flake of iron another 787 00:32:40,539 --> 00:32:38,539 sphere the other sphere particle three 788 00:32:42,459 --> 00:32:40,549 has the same composition of particle two 789 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:42,469 which is again a flake and not a sphere 790 00:32:47,859 --> 00:32:44,570 but has a very different composition two 791 00:32:49,719 --> 00:32:47,869 particle for the one mr. Lobel showed to 792 00:32:52,419 --> 00:32:49,729 cap it off other analysis of other 793 00:32:54,579 --> 00:32:52,429 spheres shows different compositions 794 00:32:56,889 --> 00:32:54,589 again like these ones that show huge 795 00:32:59,109 --> 00:32:56,899 amounts of silicon it's where we're 796 00:33:00,789 --> 00:32:59,119 seeing 50 types of thermite where are we 797 00:33:02,229 --> 00:33:00,799 simply seeing the sphere formation 798 00:33:03,489 --> 00:33:02,239 incorporating whatever happens to me 799 00:33:05,259 --> 00:33:03,499 next to it or what hit it 800 00:33:07,149 --> 00:33:05,269 stuff like concrete which would ever 801 00:33:07,820 --> 00:33:07,159 luminaire silicates and calcium rock in 802 00:33:09,050 --> 00:33:07,830 it 803 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:09,060 the other components could even come 804 00:33:13,370 --> 00:33:11,010 from paint in the case of the Spears 805 00:33:15,050 --> 00:33:13,380 that came from burning paint chips like 806 00:33:18,110 --> 00:33:15,060 the ones from my wheelbarrow you must 807 00:33:21,110 --> 00:33:18,120 have had a much hotter heat source for 808 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:21,120 you to get 2700 degrees Fahrenheit in 809 00:33:28,580 --> 00:33:25,890 order to melt the iron so yes you need a 810 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:28,590 very high temperature in order to melt 811 00:33:32,330 --> 00:33:30,330 the iron but the fallacy here is that 812 00:33:34,580 --> 00:33:32,340 you need an external heat source as 813 00:33:37,100 --> 00:33:34,590 we've seen the iron itself the 814 00:33:39,710 --> 00:33:37,110 combustion of the iron in the form of 815 00:33:42,650 --> 00:33:39,720 tiny sparks is what's actually creating 816 00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:42,660 the heat source for a lot of the 817 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:45,600 potential iron microspheres that are not 818 00:33:50,390 --> 00:33:48,330 counting the ones that are formed after 819 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:50,400 or before and after they collapse with 820 00:33:56,330 --> 00:33:53,730 the arc welding and the cutting and the 821 00:33:59,930 --> 00:33:56,340 angle grinding but you don't actually 822 00:34:02,630 --> 00:33:59,940 need an external heat source the iron 823 00:34:05,030 --> 00:34:02,640 itself provides that heat source to get 824 00:34:06,350 --> 00:34:05,040 these molten spheres your heat source 825 00:34:10,790 --> 00:34:06,360 must be something like a chemical 826 00:34:13,550 --> 00:34:10,800 reaction that actually is true in the 827 00:34:18,050 --> 00:34:13,560 case of the sparks the chemical reaction 828 00:34:22,490 --> 00:34:18,060 is iron plus oxygen gives iron oxide 829 00:34:24,889 --> 00:34:22,500 plus a lot of heat and as we've seen ten 830 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:24,899 times as much heat as is needed to melt 831 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:27,570 the equivalent amount of iron so yes 832 00:34:32,630 --> 00:34:29,970 there's a chemical reaction but it's 833 00:34:35,570 --> 00:34:32,640 just the combustion of iron an 834 00:34:38,389 --> 00:34:35,580 exothermic chemical reaction an 835 00:34:38,750 --> 00:34:38,399 exothermic chemical reaction oxygen plus 836 00:34:40,970 --> 00:34:38,760 iron 837 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:40,980 that reacts in the case of thermite 838 00:34:47,389 --> 00:34:43,890 reacts at 4,500 degrees Fahrenheit and 839 00:34:54,230 --> 00:34:47,399 clearly the combustion of iron and 840 00:34:56,210 --> 00:34:54,240 oxygen is both enough to melt iron so 841 00:34:58,780 --> 00:34:56,220 summing things up there are multiple 842 00:35:00,950 --> 00:34:58,790 ways that you can make iron microspheres 843 00:35:03,230 --> 00:35:00,960 there are ways that would have occurred 844 00:35:06,470 --> 00:35:03,240 before the collapse during the 845 00:35:08,510 --> 00:35:06,480 construction during the fire during the 846 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:08,520 collapse and after the collapse during 847 00:35:11,720 --> 00:35:09,570 the cleanup efforts 848 00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:11,730 the spheres that have been found are 849 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:13,920 consistent with these various ways and 850 00:35:17,390 --> 00:35:15,570 they're all differences are not really 851 00:35:20,420 --> 00:35:17,400 consistent with some kind of thermite 852 00:35:27,630 --> 00:35:24,749 so in conclusion the evidence of iron 853 00:35:31,109 --> 00:35:27,640 microspheres for nano thermite has been 854 00:35:33,930 --> 00:35:31,119 debunked this does not mean that 911 was 855 00:35:35,339 --> 00:35:33,940 not a controlled demolition nor does it 856 00:35:38,579 --> 00:35:35,349 prove that the buildings were brought 857 00:35:41,969 --> 00:35:38,589 down by impacts and fire alone my goal 858 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:41,979 here is not to convince you of that all 859 00:35:45,690 --> 00:35:43,450 I wanted to do is to get you think about 860 00:35:47,989 --> 00:35:45,700 this one claimed piece of evidence it's 861 00:35:50,190 --> 00:35:47,999 been around for a decade but it's wrong 862 00:35:51,089 --> 00:35:50,200 this is wrong there maybe something else 863 00:35:53,700 --> 00:35:51,099 is wrong too 864 00:35:55,499 --> 00:35:53,710 maybe you should check so don't change 865 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:55,509 around about 911 just because of this 866 00:35:58,620 --> 00:35:57,249 one thing but consider that not 867 00:36:01,109 --> 00:35:58,630 everything you've accepted for all these